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7/17/2010 2:22 PM
Cristeen- Thanks for reaching out to me. I really appreciate it. Sometimes I feel really out of place here because I do have children already. But I love all the ladies here and I wouldnt want to leave them. But yes it is very hard to deal with decisions that we made thinking we were doing the right thing and then 10 years down the road realize it was the biggest mistake of your life. I look at the hurt in my wonderful husbands eyes and I wish there was something I could do. But for now we will focus on the family we do have and hope that we can come up with the money to try IVF again.

7/17/2010 10:15 AM
Hi everyone. I am new to IVF and was just reading thru the IVF buddies forum and thought it would be a great way to calm my nerves. My husband and I have our first IVF consult on Wednesday and I am just wondering what to expect. What is a typical timeline? We are doing IVF because of low sperm quality. Is there anyone else with a similiar story? Hope to hear from you soon! So glad I found this site.

7/17/2010 1:47 AM
Snowie...been thinking about you as our stories have alot in common. I know having other children ( I have three) still doesn't take away the ache. I remember when you were thinking about having the reversal and I was wishing I could do the same. But with my age, it was better to go right to IVF. As it turned out, a reversal would not have worked as my ovaries didn't respond to stims and I had to go for a donor. And I still ended up with a BFN. It hurts every single day. I don't know what it's like for women who don't have any children but noone knows what it feels like to voluntarily have your tubes tied at 27 yrs old like I did because my marriage was unhealthy and I was overwhelmed raising 3 kids very close in age with very little support from their father. I knew I wanted a divorce and I thought I was doing the right thing. Now I have someone in my life I love so much who is a wonderful stepfather and who deserves his own child and I can't make that happen. And we financed everything we could to do IVF with a donor and it still didn't happen. It's really hard not to ask why and not to feel guilty in some way for making that decision 13 yrs ago. I say thanks to God everyday for what I have but the ache in my heart is always there. I wish there was something I could say...just know I'm thinking of you.

7/16/2010 8:13 PM
Hi ladies -

Snowie - So sorry about your tubes. You are very blessed to have 2 children and I hope you can enjoy them and they bring you some comfort.

Nwells - I hope everything goes well with your lupron.

As for me the nurse called and said my labs looked beautiful and to keep it up. I doubled again in 48 hours to 1299! I go back in Tuesday for another beta test, hopefully at this rate I will be well past 2000 and then they can do an ultrasound then on Thursday to look for gestational sacs. I am praying that we can see at least 1 baby! Then maybe it will feel more real, I am still so scared to believe that this is actually going to happen.

Good Luck to everyone. Hope you all have a nice weekend!

7/16/2010 8:29 AM
Snowie- so sorry, I teared for you.

Waiting to here when I will begin the lupron process, I will keep everyone posted, figure at this point what do I have to loose right. My RE has been recommending this for the last year, there must be a reason for it, I hope!!!

7/15/2010 9:47 PM
Oh I completely understand and so sorry.

7/15/2010 9:30 PM
IVF2Mom- I did IVF already and I m/c the fresh cycle and chemical the 2nd. I have two children then had my tubes tied b/c I was in a bad abusive relationship. Now I have the man of my dreams my best friend and soulmate and since IVF didn't work and we couldn't afford another fresh cycle we tried TR and now it has scarred closed apparently. So nothing more we can do.

7/15/2010 6:26 PM
Snowie, I don't know all your history but I have 2 blocked tubes as well. To keep the infection out i had one tied and one removed. it's not the end of the world, just means IVF is you only option. I never got a chance to try any other treatments and went straight to IVF. Goodluck

7/15/2010 5:42 PM
Oh, Snowie....I am really so very sorry to hear that your tubes are blocked. It just stinks, nothing more to say about that! Did the clinic that did it offer you any kind or recourse if this happened? I hate to hear that this is the end for you. I will be praying that God opens up a window for you somehow, some way. Don't know what else to say but I will be thinking of you and praying for you. Take good care, Snowie. XO

7/15/2010 5:34 PM
Had my HSG today instead of tomorrow (they had an opening) anyway both of my tubes are blocked again so this is the end of the road for sure for us. I wish all of you much luck

7/15/2010 11:02 AM
Hello ladies
Lucky- AWESOME!!!!

Epilady- thank you, you made me cry because you totally hit the nail on the head for me, I feel that way and if I was only so forward and bold I would express it!!! Meg says I am so strong, and there are girls I have been talking to who are not on this forum who are going through the same thing and I give them advice because they are falling apart and try to keep them going, and guess what both are now pregnant, so sometimes I feel like I am just the cheer leader and I will never get into the game. I am strong for myself, strong for others and sometime I feel like for what!!!! UGH!!!

Well my update, my RE definitely wants me to do the depo-Luron for 2 months and go right into an IVF cycle. I am so torn because what if it doesn't work after that, my body has been through so much already. I am not liking the menopause idea, or the weight gain, part of me just has to trust my RE the other part wants to be like, no way I don't feel right about it so I am not doing it. However if I choose not to do it, then what, am I done? So I need advice, any one ever do the Lupron high dose for any length of time, or know anyone who has? I know one person but she was done having children . As for acupuncture, I have gone on and off for the the last year and 1/2 never consistent enough to really make a difference, except it did help my cramps. In June I started going once a week, I love it and it is great, if anything it totally relaxes you!!!! So I say do it.

To the rest of you ladies, stay strong, have faith, Lord knows I am trying and we need to!!!

7/15/2010 5:20 AM
My update: My estrogen level was 13 and my lining was very thin. RE said I looked great. I will be starting Follistim 150U and Menopur 150U on Monday. So far no set back prayfully this trend will continue! =)

7/14/2010 5:46 PM
Thanks so much ladies for the well wishes. I got my second beta, and in 72 hours it was 608. So hopefully it will keep rising and stick! We go back Friday morning to check again.

Hope everyone is doing well in their cycles and what ever stage you may be in right now!

7/14/2010 12:19 PM
Hey Ladies,

I haven't been on any forums in a while. All I want to do these days is sleep (but I'm not complaining). I haven't had a chance to read all the latest post so please forgive me for not commenting.

AFM, still growing 2 babies. 7 week u/s yesterday showed 1 @ 6w5d with a hb of 141.5 and 1 @ 6w3d with a hb of 113. I'm still praying both continue to develop and I get to see my sweet peas sooner than I realize.

Take care ladies...baby dust

7/13/2010 4:34 PM
Lucky : congrats on the BFP!
BC: I have had acupuncture and found it to be very relaxing and it did help me deal with massive amounts of stress last cycle. However, not sure if I will do it again since I did months of acupuncture leading up to 2 IUIs and 2 IVFs - all unsuccessful. I would recommend it for stress relief but for me at least it didn't seem to be the missing link in achieving success.

7/13/2010 12:18 PM
I went in for my lining check yesterday. Everything looks good. My FET got pushed back a day until Monday. My doctor won't be there for it , it will be some doctor that I don't know. They pushed me back since he won't be there and we would be the only reason anyone would be coming in. I am still really nervous. It just has to work . I am afraid it won't and I am afraid it will and end like last time.

The last few days I have been really angry. I just found out my waste of space cousin's girlfriend is pregnant. She just took a test because everyone thought that she was. My mom says by the way she looks she is at least 6 months. She just graduated from high school. I know that they both smoke and do drugs. My cousin is 25 and he is on disability for being bi polar and he doesn't take his meds. I am just so angry . That baby is already doomed. I am trying to be positive and calm and tell myself that this time it will happen.
I am going on a date with myself this afternoon. My husband refuses to take me to the new twilight movie , so I am going to go by myself.

I hope that everyone is having a good day. Baby dust to all.

7/13/2010 12:56 AM
@BC: several of the ladies here have done acupuncture. I did not, mostly because I couldn't figure out how to squeeze that into my schedule too. However, if this IVF did not work (or I lose this preg), I probably would take at least 3 months off and just do acupuncture. I believe it can really work and know people who are not the "touchy-feely" type who've given acupuncture a go as a last resort to dealing with their health issues and have come away feeling much better (not just with fertility). I'm of the opinion that it can't hurt, even if it doesn't help.

@Lucky: congrats!! Keep us informed, and sticky baby dust!

@praying4: that's interesting. My RE told me I could call at any time and come in for a scan, even if it was just to reassure me. I'm actually scheduled for 2 more scans before I get officially passed off to my OB, even though my first OB appt is on Friday. I totally understand where you're coming from with the thought that anything could've happened, but I hope these two things give some reassurance: 1) if something did, there's nothing we can do about it and 2) if something was wrong, your body would likely have told you. Hang in there and let us know how your next scan goes!!

@Snowie: I know you were looking forward to the clomid, but, yay, no hormone-enduced emotional roller-coaster this month! I actually responded better to Femara (and had less emotional instability).

@NWells: Gotcha. Well, at least it's a little less strange than your brother's wife talking about their sex life (Jerry Springer, anyone?). Youth definitely gets the bravado, but as we all know, there's no way of telling who gets to get pregnant or when. I understand what you mean about the "it will happen." My mom used to tell me I just needed to relax. Because we all know only relaxed women get pregnant. Don't know any Type A personalities with kids, do we? If it helps at all, it doesn't meant that they don't care. They are uncomfortable. One friend of mine who was very dismissive, "Oh, you know, it will happen on God's time frame. You just have to be patient and believe." I said, "No, I don't have to be patient, and no, I don't believe this is God's time frame. That's almost like saying God is punishing me. I know this subject makes you uncomfortable, but if I were diagnosed with cancer, you wouldn't be telling me to be patient and let God heal me on His time frame. While infertility may not kill me the way that some cancers do, it feels like a cancer of the soul, eating away at my hopes and dreams. And I have no control over it. Sure, I can do this treatment or that treatment, which worked for Sally at work and Jen from the gym. But that doesn't mean they will work for us. I don't need platitudes; I just need someone to listen and hear my pain." Of course, I also tend to be a little confrontational when I have had "enough". That wasn't as mean as I would've liked to be, but it definitely did stop her "helpful" comments. A good friend could have heard that and listened, though. In some ways, people with kids feel guilty, especially if it just happened for them. What can they say? It's almost like you're starving and they have a lot of food, only it's not food that can be shared with you. One of my friends who is a stay at home mom with 2 kids was having some difficulty controlling them the other day. She said, "You really want to deal with this? I'd rather have your life." I said, "Sure, I'll trade you. I'd choose runny noses and poopy diapers and tantrums over medication that makes me gain 10 pounds, bloats my stomach, where I have to inject myself 3-5 times a day (for the entire 9 months if it does work), that sends my emotions all over the place, and where I'm not even guaranteed success. And if it doesn't work, then I have to deal with both my disappointment and my husband's." She said, "Yeah, that does suck. I think I'll choose my messy boys." I call it "sharing my perspective." But hang in there. You do have fight, and that is worth a lot.

Okay, must finish the garbage now. Night, ladies.

7/12/2010 9:27 PM
Has anyone done acupuncture with their IVF? Why or why not? If so, do you feel like the acupuncture made a difference? Was it the acupuncture or the being totally relaxed 2 times a week?

We are trying to decide if we want to try it, we didn't last time and carried to 11 weeks. But the lady said she could double my egg count. What do you think? Any input is appreciated.

7/12/2010 8:37 PM
Congrats Lucky

7/12/2010 6:26 PM
Hi ladies - I just wanted to let you know that we are BFP! My level was 209 and the nurse said I was very pregnant! I am so happy I can't even put it into words. She did preface it by telling me that anything can happen and it could go either way. So not to tell anyone who I wouldn't want to untell. But I think that have to tell you that to keep you grounded. But for right now I am pregnant and it feels wonderful!

Thanks to all you ladies for all the support and encouragement!

Good Luck to everyone!

7/12/2010 4:47 PM
I'm know i haven't been around in a while. I'm so sorry to read about the BFNs and losses. I can only imagine what u are going through. Hugs and Kisses to you all.

AFM, Nothing much has been going on with me. I had my first OBGYN visit last week. Nothing much happen. I was hoping to get an US since my last one was was at 6w5d. But I was told I couldn't get another one until I'm 12wks. Hopefully I'll get a chance to hear the baby's HB and see how much they have grown. On Wed. I'll be 10wks. I'm a little worried because of how long it will be between ultrasounds, it'll be seven wks. I'm feeling like anything can happen to my babies between now and then. I'm just trying to keep my faith. I haven't had any spotting or pain, so I'm trying to take that as a positive and live in the moment and enjoy being pregnant.

7/12/2010 3:32 PM
disregard previous entry change of plans: No Clomid this month going to have an HSG on friday to be sure my tubes are still open then will go on from there.

7/12/2010 10:11 AM
So new plan this month 100 mg of Clomid in stead of 50 and taking it days 5-9 instead of 3-7 so here goes nothing.

7/12/2010 10:06 AM
Hi ladies,

Epilady- Lisa my SIL is actually my husbands brothers wife, and he is in constant competition with my husband, so any time he can accomplish something before him he lets everyone know it. I was talking to my husbands sister Meg, who lived with them and when we were talking about the way LIsa is acting regarding the whole getting pregnant thing, Meg made me feel so much better because she felt the way I did, and she is only 25 and no where near having kids, she said she can't imagine how I feel about it because it bothered her so much, lisa is almost so confident and cocky about getting pregnant. It felt good to hear someone else say what was on my mind. Meg also told me I have more fight in me and I need to just keep going, you asked if I have a counselor, not really an actual one I have all of you and if I had to say the person who is encouraging and listens and just cheers me on it is Meeghan. Most people don't know what to say to me, or how to responds when I talk about everything, and they just ask a lot of questions. Or they have Kids already and they almost feel bad saying anything at all. I try to talk to my sister, and some of my friends and their only response always is.... it will happen- I AM SO SICK OF HEARING THAT- Meg doesn't even go there, she is great and gives me the support I am looking for!!!!! I have learned that in the last three years, she really is the best person for me to go to just because she doens't know what I am going through, she doesn't pretend to know and she just listens talks about my strengths and keeps me going.

Lucky- sounds like it could be it, but I will not say anything until I hear back from you!

No idea what is going to happen, still planning on starting in August.

7/11/2010 4:17 PM
Lucky Good luck on beta test tomorrow, please let us know the results! (Sounds encouraging so far!)

7/11/2010 4:15 PM
epilady: congrats on the BFP!!
snowie: sorry to hear about another BFN, good luck next month!

As for me, still in the waiting game. i saw a hematologist last week. She was not concerned about the PAI 1 or MTHFR muttations as the 1st RE was. but she did think that my Protein S levels were low. Same treatment as the others - blood thinners, which I have been on before, so I don't really see how we solved anything here.
I am currrently on Advair for a (hopefully ) temporary respiratory condition due to exposure to some chemicals at work. so I don't know if I will have to wait for the next round of IVF, which we were hoping to do in August. I may have to be on Advair, which is a steroid inhaler, for several months and I would certainly rather not be taking anything when we start IVF. I just feel like our life is on hold and we are so ready to move forward, feel like we have been waiting forever and I am really disapointed if I will have to wait a few more months. Hopefully I will just stop coughing soon!

7/11/2010 12:02 PM
Sorry to keep you ladies waiting I have been kinda depressed. It was BFN AGAIN!! I HATE HATE HATE that my body screwed with me like it did this month but oh well. Increased dose of clomid this month to 100 so maybe that will do the trick.

7/11/2010 2:51 AM
Hi Ladies!

@wannabe - you are right, I am new here. I have been on another forum for the past 4 years and thought it might be time to expand my horizons to a forum of IVF folks. There were a lot of people on my old forum (which I still frequent) that were not to this stage and could not understand. Glad to have found you ladies!

@IVF2 - You are also right. I have come to that realization and am doing much better this week. I am just letting it go and flow and God will do the rest. I am accepting that it will all be on his terms and his time line. Just breathe and go with it!

@luci - I have often wondered the same thing - how much pain and loss can one person stand. But please know that God does love you and he will never give you more than He knows you can handle. Easy to say but hard to know. My niece passed away, then 2 months later my Father and 2 moths later we lost our 2nd and started chemo. And that was only 1 year and it was 5 years ago. I promise that even if you cannot pray, God knows your heart and he will help you heal.

@cristeen - sometimes REs won't call to talk because they are afraid that calling will make it harder on you. When we lost our twins, and had the D&C - other than a quick check-in after surgery I did not hear from my RE for 2 months. When I finally did go see him 2 months after that he said that they try to give the family space to work through things together and often people feel pushed if they call too soon. Almost like they are saying 'gosh sorry. are you ready to come spend more money?'. Maybe that is your situation?

@aga - it totally depends on your doc. Mine recommends 2 cycles. 1st to get the body to heal and back on track and the 2nd to build up a nice lining in the uterus. I am sure if you are wanting to you can ask them to start right away - however, I would follow their recommendation if they want to wait. Best of luck!

@lucky - my shots started to sting after about 6 weeks, but it was more to us running out on places that hadn't been stuck already. Can you ask for suppositories or a different oil? I think ours was in soy oil. RE said that there were fewer reactions. It was about $80 for a 2 week supply.

@Epilady - Thanks for asking. We are 2 weeks into BCP (one more to go thankfully!). I am feeling bloated and very tight in my lower abdomen. When I started my cycle (day 1) they also had me start pills and my cycle was only 3 days long instead of 6 and very light. So I am thinking that the next cycle will be fabulous (dripping with sarcasm!), probably super heavy and crampy. I have a clotting disorder and have to do lovenox when on BCP and after transfer. For some reason my stomach is very tender this time (last time lovenox didn't bother me at all). I am thinking that maybe it is because we did Lovenox for so long last year (14 weeks) and it is just still sensitive? Kind of makes me worry about how the progesterone shots will be this time if the lovenox hurts after 2 weeks... Looking forward to starting hormones. I will also be staring acupuncture next week - she says it can increase our follicle count, which we really need.

Baby dust to all who are trying, sticky dust to all the BFPs, hugs to all the BFNs and prayers for all.

7/11/2010 2:15 AM
Hi, Ladies! Sorry to have been such a stranger, but I've been so tired when I get home from work that I'm not good for much of anything these days. These are the times that it really stinks that my husband is so far away, because it sure would be nice to have someone else to vacuum or put the dishes in the washing machine.

@Lucky: I had the same reaction, and it occurred around 2 weeks, too. It looked like I had a butterfly on my butt (the rashes). This cycle, I used progesterone in ethyl oleate and all has been well thus far. Good luck with your blood test - that's exciting! (I've never actually seen a positive result from any of my POAS tests, so no!)

@Mummy: I'd second WannaBe's advice and hope you are finding the support you need, and that your doctor is giving you advice and counseling. Did they also look at the nuchal fold (the thickness around the developing neck) during your first and second trimester? That's a screening test, where the amnio is considered to be "diagnostic". However, every diagnostic test has a certain percentage of results that are false positive (classified as positive, when it shouldn't be) and false negative (classified as negative, when it should be positive). It's worth chatting with your doctor about it, especially if they didn't see any abnormalities in the nuchal fold. Best wishes for a positive outcome.

@Smiles: congrats!! Hope you're getting *some* sleep!

@aga: I'm so sorry about your m/c. It is really hard; I know. Different clinics do their FET cycles differently - some wait a month or longer; some start immediately. It really depends on the protocol (and your mental and physical readiness).

@ivf: good news about the heartbeats for both your babies!!

@NWells: I'd tell my SIL in no minced words, "I REALLY don't want to hear about you having sex with my brother. I love both you guys, but would not prefer to have THAT image stuck in my head. This isn't an episode of Jerry Springer!" Ewww - especially the bit about "a lot of babymaking love." Maybe I'm repressed, but blech! LOL! I'm also sorry to hear of your mental state - the ups and downs of this process are so difficult to take. Do you have a counselor that your see? It's such a hard decision to make: when is "enough" actually "enough"? And as women, we tend to be so self-reflective and self-blaming. "I should've done this instead. I should've gone there. I shouldn't have had that drink. I should've tried one more time." And numbness is a natural part of the loss cycle. Wishing you a better mental state.

@cristeen: sorry to hear about your RE troubles. Before you go to the other clinic, have you (or will you have) met with your RE to talk more about the cycle?

@snowie: 2ww almost over! Let us know!

@luci: good luck with your FET cycle. I don't believe in omens, although I did change my underwear before an RE visit (because I was wearing a pair that my husband and I joked are a "bad" pair. We'd plan for intimacy, but times that wore that pair, it just didn't happen.) I totally understand the anger at God; I have a lot of it myself, still. And I don't know about you, but my God can handle my anger. I've had people tell me it was inappropriate to be mad at God; that He didn't like that. Well, if my anger and rage can affect my God that easily, He's likely not that omnipotent. Besides, He made me and He made me a little prone to anger anyway. LOL

@BC: how's your cycle going?

My update: I am pregnant, with 1, and there was fetal heart activity at my 7 week visit. I was fortunate enough to have a good friend who insisted on coming to the appointment with me so I wouldn't be alone if the news was bad. I find that I was relieved, but not totally. My friend said, "I thought you'd be ecstatic!" I said, "It's still early, and I'm worried, although it was a relief to see that activity." The baby measured at 6w4d, so it's well within the margin (plus or minus 5 days). Meanwhile, they still can't get my clotting factors in the right range (I've gone from 5000 units of heparin 2x day to 9500), so they will be switching me to Lovenox. I've been tired, nauseated a lot, but I'm hanging in there and thankful for every day I get to be pregnant. Hopefully it will all work out okay. It's so hard to have this thing going on inside and have no control over it. I guess that's the first step in accepting parenthood, though.

Hope all you ladies are having a great weekend. Sorry to anyone I missed.


7/10/2010 1:15 PM
Good morning, ladies.

Lucky....Congratulations! You sound BFP to me! It is highly unlikely that you would get a positive on an HPT and then get a negative beta, so I would rest assured that you are pregnant! Wonderful news and so very happy for you. Can't wait to hear your beta results. Please be sure and share them with us!

Mummy23.....long time since we've heard from you. Have thought of you and wondered how things are going. So, how many weeks officially are you? Around 18 I think. I am happy you have your girl but very, very sorry to hear about the Trisomy 18 possibility. FYI....if you just google "support groups for trisomy 18" several things will pop up. I found one for you at http://www.trisomy18support.org/ Hope this is helpful. So, what is your OB saying at this point? That is the person who should really be giving you advice, information, and knowledge of what is likely and what to expect at this point. If you are close to 20 weeks and haven't yet had it, you should soon have the full autonomy scan of your baby. This will measure literally every detail of your baby from heart size, chambers, brain size, etc. It will give you a ton of information and will help you to see what is going on with your baby's growth.

I will keep you and your baby in my prayers. I hope they are incorrect in their diagnosis at this point. A friend of mine, in her late 20's with 2 healthy boys, had a little girl born last January with Trisomy 13. I know what a challenging & heartbreaking situation it was for her. Will be praying for you and thinking of you. Please let us know what your OB says.

XO God bless.

7/10/2010 9:16 AM
Hi Ladies -

Mummy23 - Congrats on your girl you always wanted. Did you select the gender before hand and have them use only female sperm? So sorry about the amnio, if there didnt appear to be anything wrong why did you have to have it? Is it an age thing? Well I hope everything turns out to be OK and you find a forum that will give you some information. Good Luck!

Agahope - good luck with your FET cycle!

Nwells - I know how hard it is to see people around you getting pregnant. My sister in law found out she was pregnant a month before we started our cycle. I completely lost it. I thought we couldn't be pregnant at the same time. But I am happy for her now, because it will be another baby to love and hopefully a cousin close in age if I am so blessed to get pregnant.

IVF2mom - hoping your babies stick and are growing healthy. Just remember to take care of yourself and have faith!

faithnchrist - I had no side effects with lupron at all. My first cycle was canceled due to lack of response which could have been too much suppression. The 2nd cycle I was on a very watered down version for only 2 days before stims. And to be honest I didn't really have that many side effects with any of the drugs. I was crazy emotional all the time when I was on clomid.

Have any of you ladies had a bad reaction to your progesterone shots? Mine are sesame oil based and I have these itchy blotches on my butt. Not sure if they are hives. But I have been on progesterone 2 weeks yesterday. So its strange that if was an allergic reaction it would happen after almost 2 weeks. Called nurse and she says that can happen. She asked if I wanted to change drugs. I said well since we have BT Monday I might as well wait and see if I am pregnant, then we can make a change.

So I broke down and took a POAS this morning. I thought my HCG should be out of my system by now since they are going to do a BT on Sunday morning. The office is open but lab wont be run until Monday. We decided to go Sunday since its about an hour and a half a way by Chicago then we wouldn't have to deal with traffic. Anyway it was BFP! I am too nervous to think that this is real. But has anyone ever gotten a false positive the day before the blood test? I have never seen a positive result so I was so happy but I am also trying to stay grounded and tell myself that it might not be correct.

Well I am done rambling on. I wish everyone the best of luck, and please keep your fingers crossed for me that it really is positive! I will let you all know on Monday what the result is.

7/9/2010 11:36 PM
Smiles - congratulations to you! Blessings to you, your husband and your new bundle of joy! Glad to hear all is well. Take care.

7/9/2010 12:28 AM
Hey Girls I know its been a minute but I have something I need to share and hope someone can direct me somewhere anywhere...we finally got pregnant due date dec 12 its the girl I have always wanted did genetic screening last week came back 1 in 5 for trisomy 18 did an amnio and it came back positive weird thing is everyone of our ultrasounds have been perfect so perfect had I not had this testing they wouldn't have even suggested it but I can't find a chat room to talk with other families to start figuring out what is going on please pray for us as I still pray for all the women on this site regularly...I need help in crisis -momma23

7/7/2010 10:40 PM
Ladies - thank you for your encouragement...it means a lot!! This MC has hit me hard emotionally and I'm trying not to be bitter. It seems that once a week another one of my friends gets pregnant...no problem. I am trying to stay sane and not totally lose it. I am soooo very scared to do a FET cycle and have it fail too.

How long after a MC can you do a FET cycle? Why do some take Lupron, etc... and others no drugs? My RE said that I would not be taking anything....I'm kinda finding that strange. Any thoughts???

Thank you again!!

7/7/2010 10:01 AM
hello ladies,
Hope everyone had a great 4th, my vacation was good, busy, but relaxing just the same.
Aga- I am so sorry I hope you are doing ok

IVFmom- stay positive, you have two little beans in there, send that energy to keep them growing!!!

cristeen7- been there three times, so I know what you are going through, my last one was in Feb, my body is enjoying the break and I hope I can get my mind in a really good place so the next time it works!!! hang in there.

Smiles- congrats on your little boy!

Snowie I hope this is it for you and it works!!! don't keep testing, it will make you nuts!!! I have sworn that I will never do a pee test again!!! especially after last month when I was a week late!! I hate them!!!

Do those of you in your 2ww or just starting good luck, my thoughts are with you, I hope to start in August, who knows though!!

As for me, I am going through the motions of not wanting to even bother any more. My sister in law has been kind of trying to get pregnant from over a year now, but she is now obsessing about having kids and letting everyone know when their "time" is. Last month she assumed because they had "a lot" baby making love she was all set, ,so when her monthly arrived she was upset because she assumed it would just work, I told her that it just doesn't work out that way. Well they went to FL with us and they were letting everyone know they are going at it again. Yeah Thanks don't need to know when you and your husband are making woopie!! She will probably get prego with out a problem, it is almost like she is making more of a deal of it then needs to be, Guess I am just a little sensitive to the whole thing for what ever reason. God Bless me if they get pregnant because I won't hear the end of it for 9 months, then when the baby comes forget it. UGH!!!! But watching her I don't know I never really obsessed over it, we tried, I thought there was and issue and there was, here we are over 3 years later and still nothing, I just don't know, If my RE suggests the Lupron thing I may just be done because what if it still doesn't work after that . I put my body through that for what!!! I have been going through Acupuncture and noticed that my mind is more relaxed, or just numb to the whole thing, don't know right now I am in a I don't care mode. Well thanks ladies for listening-

7/6/2010 5:17 PM
Quick Update: We saw 1 strong heartbeat in the smaller sac (ha..the one I was worried about) and 1 faint heartbeat in the larger sac. I am still very positive both of my little blueberries will continue to develop. I won't find out bloodwork results until tomorrow but I'm not worried regardless. My faith lies in God to give me what I need. No more and no less.

7/6/2010 5:08 PM
Update: Started Lupron and I am currently on day 7 still no side effects. Can anyone share with me their experiece with Lupron and when their side effects started? =)

7/6/2010 3:41 PM
Best of luck Luci, Lucky, Snowie, and Praying...will be praying for everyone to have that BFP!!

As for me, I'm still struggling with that BFN. Can't believe how hard this has hit both of us. The huge bills are rolling in for this cycle and we are really scraping to pay them and we don't have anything to show for it. So not fair..I really want to feel better...been trying to get out and enjoy summer and not focus on the negative. I find myself thinking "i would be 4 wks pg, the U/S and hearing the heartbeat would be soon". It really is difficult to deal with something when we don't know why it didn't work. Even though we knew the odds, it is still so hard when it really doesn't work!! I am also VERY frustrated that my RE never even called me since the negative result. She should have called me!!! This is such a costly, long, difficult road the least she could've done was give me a call to say "sorry it didn't work, I'll be looking things over." I have decided to consult with another RE, still with the Cleveland Clinic, but at Beechwood instead of downtown. I just feel it's good patient care after we've spent 30k and over a year- a phone call isn't too much to ask.

Anyway, that's my rant for the day. Our appt isn't until Aug 16th. I have questions and wonder how we should proceed. We have three frosties but I'm not sure we want to go right back to another cycle. There's so much to worry about...will they survive the thaw?? I have a bunch of extra weight on, had it to start with and added to it with all the cycles so I'm concerned about that as well. It is so darn hard to lose!!! Take care everyone!!!!

7/6/2010 7:48 AM
Thanks Ladybug....Good luck to you also. I am 12dpo and BFN this morning but my temps are different than they have ever been so IDK I guess I just have to wait till Thursday and see what happens...thats when the witch is due to appear.

7/5/2010 4:09 PM
Hi all. Hope everyone had a good weekend.
I would like to say congratulations to all that have had success, good luck to those who are currently in a cycle, and my sympathy to you that have had loss.

I have not posted for quite a while, but I have been reading all the posts. I did IVF#1 in February, got BFN. Had labroscopic surgery for endometriosis in April. I am currently in IVF#2, awaiting ER on Wednesday. Ultrasound this morning showed 11 good follicles. Doing ICSI with donor sperm this time. I am praying that all goes good and I can get a BFP!!!!

Good luck to all!!

7/4/2010 11:04 PM
agahope- I am so sorry for your loss. I know there are no words to make it better.

I haven't posted in awhile, I read all your post though. I am currently in a frozen cycle. I started the Lupron on june 20th. I am taking estrace 3 times a day. I go in for my lining check on July 12th. I am hoping that the transfer happens on the 18th or later , but during that week because my husband is on vacation from work that week. I just hope that it works and that this time we get a happy ending. I just don't know how many more losses I can go through before I crack. I am trying not to get too stressed out. Around when I started the Lupron my mom went to the er and ended up getting transferred to get a heart cath done. She ended up with a stent. She had an 80% blockage in one of the three main arteries. She is fine now. She had the same thing happen in May 2009. I am trying not to worry but I couldn't handle if something happened to her. My dad just died of a heart attack in October. I am trying not to feel stressed about everyone wanting to know when I am going to have a baby. The families are understanding to a point. My mom has been really great. I kind of feel a little bit of pressure that this has to work so my mom can have something happy to look forward to after this crappy year.

I don't know if it is a bad omen but if this cycle works , if we go by my period my tentative due date is April 3. It is the date the we found out the baby had died with my first pregnancy 5 years ago. I am just rambling. I am really good at making myself crazy. I have tried to pray but I am still really angry at god for this last year and a half and every time I pray the exact opposite seems to happen. Sorry to vent and ramble. I guess I am more stressed than I realized.

Baby dust to all.

7/4/2010 7:17 PM
Snowie - Good luck this month. Perhaps it will be lucky for the both of us. I am starting clomid this month, 2 pills days 5-9 of my cycle. I am expecting AF in the next couple of days.

Agahope - sorry for your loss. I know your pain. Hang in there, grieve and take care of you.

7/3/2010 10:24 AM
Congrats smiles! That is amazing news! I guess that what they say is true some times when you have given up hope that you will get pregnant on your own.

IVF2mom - I think you have an amazing attitude. Your right if you get 1 than you are still blessed. That is usually what the RE wants anyway is to get 1 viable pregnancy. But I hope everything works out for you!

Ladies I am almost through week 1 of my 2ww. I just keep telling myself to be patient and give it to God. There is nothing I can do but take care of myself, and science has done all it can do. Now it's up to God, and believe me I have been praying a lot. And I do have many people who are praying for me as well. This has been such a long process that so many people know what we are doing now. I wasn't sure about telling people at first but I decided that I didn't want to go through this alone. So I am very blessed to have my family, friends, and a lot of my church family praying for me. I have seen so many miracles happen through prayer at my church so I know that they can happen. I was so angry with God for a long time but I decided that it was OK he will forgive me because he loves me. So I have been praying through this whole cycle and so far he has answered every one of them. So I just need one more prayer answered.

Sorry ladies for the emotional rant, but I feel this is the place I can talk about things like this, becasue you all understand. And i am praying for all of you as well.

Good luck to everyone and have a happy 4th!

7/2/2010 9:59 PM
Congrats Smiles. I sent a FB request ... I cant wait to see your bundle of joy. Awesome news.

7/2/2010 2:47 PM
Wanna - I am happy to share info but I do recall this site having some privacy issues but you can e-mail me at theels@gmail.com or if you facebook then I believe my profile is facebook.com/jennt
Thank You very much for your kind words, I really appreciate them because I know sometimes it is not that easy

7/2/2010 2:03 PM
Smiles.....Sincere & warmest congratulations to you, your husband, and welcome to your precious little boy. That is such wonderful news! I hope your delivery went easily and without complication. It's an amazing thing to hold your child in your arms...I do remember that feeling and it is the most wonderful thing on earth. Would love to hear his name or see a photo if you are ever so inclined. Have a wonderful weekend with your new son and again, best wishes to you all. You got the prize!!!! XO WBM

7/2/2010 1:31 PM
Hi Ladies,

Just wanted to share with you that our little "miracle" showed up on Monday (just about a week early) It is a boy and he is just amazing with his red hair & blue eyes - we just stare at him all the time!
this is a feeling & experience that I pray all of you will have very soon - you all deserve it more than anyone...you are strong women & I will keep praying for you...
Good Luck & stay POSITIVE

7/1/2010 2:05 PM
@mablackie & wannabe, did you all have a conference with my DH last night or this morning. Thank you for your kind words and support. You are absolutely right. I'm doing much better and planning on focusing on what I know today. Today I saw 2 little sacs and I'm going to enjoy that moment until another ultrasound tells me otherwise.

@BC, welcome and Godspeed with this cycle. Ask yourself what really can you control? If there is nothing you can do then let it go and let your RE and body do what they know how to do. I hope this helps allthough I know it's easier said than done.

@btobe, sounds like you are off to a good new start. Godspeed

AFM, I'm going to patiently await my u/s Tuesday. If one little sweet pea decided not to stay, then I know he/she wanted to stay with my Mom and Sister (they must have been already spoiling him/her) LOL

Happy 4th of July gang!

7/1/2010 12:44 PM
Hi ladies....

mablackie...good to hear from you. You are getting so close to your due date. Hope all is going well and please be sure and let us know when the big event happens.

BC....welcome to the forum. Don't think I've seen you here before. I am very sorry about the losses you have experienced in the past, especially your twins at 11 weeks. I lost twin boys earlier this year at nearly 23 weeks and I know it is so very devastating. Because you have had 4 losses in the past, I am wondering if you have ever been tested for any thrombophilia or immune issues? If not, I would highly suggest that you speak to your RE immediately to get tested. They are simple blood tests that can tell us so much about why we lose our pregnancies. I was not tested until after I lost my boys. Turns out I have 2 blood clotting disorders (antithrombin III and MTHFR). Both cause my blood to clot too much. Pathology showed that my placentas developed blood clots basically cutting down blood flow to the babies and thus put me in preterm labor. It can also be a cause of why some women don't conceive or often miscarry. Of course, most RE's will attribute miscarriage prior to 12 weeks to chromosomal issues...which it often is. But, it never hurts to be armed with information so thought I would suggest the blood tests to you. Either way, welcome and I hope your next cycle is the magic one!

ivf2....try not to worry about your beta numbers at this point. As mablackie said, the numbers are more crucial at the very beginning to show that your pregnancy is viable and progressing as it should. You'll soon have your next u/s and will feel so much better. Remember, most women get pregnant and never even get a beta number to worry about. When we go through IVF, we get overloaded with information which is sometimes good, but sometimes also causes us to worry when we need not. Hang in there. As for the peas in the pod, I remember exactly that u/s photo where my two little ones looked just like peas in the pod. Very cool. It only gets better.

btobe....good to hear from you again and to know that you'll be cycling again soon. I will be transferring in mid-late August. Good luck to you.

Hope everyone has a great 4th of July weekend planned. Will be talking to you soon.

7/1/2010 7:51 AM
praying-at my first OB appointment I did not get an ultrasound. However, my first OB appointment was not until 10 weeks. At 10 weeks they heard the heartbeats with the Doppler machine. My OB said that after hearing the heartbeats (not just seeing it) greatly reduces your chances of miscarriage. We told people after this 10 week appointment. Since you may be too early to hear the heartbeats, see if they can quickly give you an ultrasound to put your mind at ease. After all you've been though, you deserve it!

IVF2-I have heard that HCG numbers do not matter at first after the first few days. I know that you want them to double right away. That is a sign of a good pregnancy. I don't know of this is normal or not, but my doctor tested my HCG levels the day I found out i was pregnant and then again 2 days later. I went in at exactly 5 weeks to get my progesterone levels tested and he also tested my HCG levels, but didn't seem as concerned with them. I never got my HCG levels tested again because he said that they didn't matter as much after the first few days of doubling. So I basically got my HCG levels tested 3 times total. So try not to worry too much about the numbers. The important thing will be the 6 week ultrasound where you can usually see a heartbeat.

Wannabe-I am so glad you are going for it again! You were such a motivator to me and I know you are to other women too. Good luck wtih this cycle. I'll keep you in my thoughts and prayers.

Snowie-I too believe in all of these signs. I had tons when I got pregnant with my twins. The day I went in for my retriveal the nurse had the same name as my mom. Then when I went in for the transfer they asked if we minded if nursing students could come watch. We said yes. One of the girl's names was Kiley, which is my favorite girl's name and one of the names we might choose if we have a girl. Then at my 6 week appointment and my first ultrasound, I knew it would be twins. It was my dad's birthday. I say things look good for you this month!!!

Agahope-I am so sorry for your loss. I know the many of us on this board have been through miscarriages. It sucks, especially after all we've been through to get pregnant. There are no words to describe how you feel. Know that you have support here. Keep trying, it can work! I got pregnant a few months after my miscarriage.

I still highly recommend the book "Conqueing Infertility" by Alice Domar. It is a great book on how to relax through this whole process.

Good luck to you all! It is possible. Stay positive!
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